So the other day, I finally saw Men In Black III, and there was one location that stood out:

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Located in Chinatown, Wu’s is THE Chinese restaurant all directors beg us to find.

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From the paper lanterns and intricate woodwork…

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…to the numerous fish tanks and detailed wallpaper.

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Throw in the hanging ducks in the window, and you’ve got every director’s ideal Chinese restaurant filming location.

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And of course, I immediately knew that Wu’s was fake, built from scratch on a soundstage.

Why? Because this location does not exist in Manhattan.

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Literally every time I get asked to find a Chinese restaurant, it’s the same description. “I want a place with really over-the-top Chinese decor,” our director will say. “Remember that one in Seinfeld? That’d be great.”

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“The key is red wallpaper,” our director will tell us. “We need a place with red wallpaper. With designs on the wallpaper too, maybe in gold.”

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“But red is key. Oh, and some woodwork. You know, like in Glengarry Glen Ross? That’d be perfect.”

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“Hey, and be on the lookout for dragons. Golden dragons would be awesome. Remember the movie The Fisher King?”

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“But really, just go for that classic over-the-top look. You’ve probably never seen Mickey Blue Eyes, but wasn’t there something in that like what I’m describing? You know what I mean?”

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I know exactly what he means. There’s only one problem: this is what your average Chinatown restaurant looks like.

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Here’s another:

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And another. White walls, a few bits of ornamentation on a wall or two, some chandeliers…and that’s it. Seriously, this is the norm.

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But try and convince a director of this, and they will look at you like you just moved to the city last week. “Are you SERIOUSLY telling me,” they will ask incredulously, “that there isn’t a single Chinese restaurant in all of Manhattan with red wallpaper and crazy ornamentation???”

Yes. That is what I’m telling you. And if you don’t believe me, you’d probably have a heart attack if I told you a good number of New York Chinese restaurants look like this:

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This is a major problem you run into while scouting in New York – people assume NYC has EVERYTHING, and when you tell them it doesn’t, they think you’re 1) wrong, and 2) not doing your job.

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That isn’t to say that New York doesn’t have some really neat Chinese restaurants. Some of the epic dim sum places sort of have the right decor we’re being asked for – but they’re ridiculously massive in size and very pricey to film in, if they’d even consider it.

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So that’s a definite no. Having shown the reality of most Chinese restaurants, you move on to options that, while not entirely meeting their description, still have some really fantastic character. I love this restaurant, especially the enormous tree in the back.

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Ditto this place, which has a lot of great character without descending into the orientalism-on-steroids restaurant I’m being asked to find.

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Or hey, what about this one up by Columbia? Sure it’s simple, but it at least has that intricate wallpaper (though not red). Maybe throw a few golden dragon statues in and we’re good?

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Directors will not like any of this. “Why is there a tree in that first place? And why don’t any of them have red wallpaper? Keep looking!!!”

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But we will inevitably come up short. As a last ditch effort, directors will occasionally suggest we scout the Nom Wah Tea Parlor, confident that a place in business since 1927 MUST have the character we’re looking for (and proof we don’t know what we’re talking about). Alas, while I love Nom Wah, the interior looks more like a diner than a Chinese restaurant.

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Directors will usually be very frustrated at this point. “But it has to be out there! That classic over-the-top Chinese restaurant you used to go to on the highway as a kid!!”

And therein lies the problem. We’re not on a highway; we’re in New York.

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I don’t know anything about the history of Chinese restaurant decor in America, but I wouldn’t be surprised if, early on, part of the draw was in presenting patrons with an EPCOT-like level of intense orientalism. Not only are you dining, you’re also going on an exotic vacation.

Here’s a 1906 picture of a Chinatown restaurant called Chinese Tuxedo, which is EXACTLY what our director is looking for.

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Ephemeral New York dug up a great quote from a 1920 restaurant review guide which describes this kind of establishment:

“Few homegrown Chinese take nourishment in these places, because they feel kind of out of place and they hate to break in on the nice white people from uptown and Brooklyn. But the waiters are all Chinese, for the same reason that the walls have Chinese dragon tapestry. The lights are shrouded in fantastic shades, and the place is redolent with the perfume of fire cracker punk, which exhales a not unpleasant odor.”

Another perfect option for our director is this defunct New York classic – Port Arthur, in business through 1959:

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But those days are gone. Chinese restaurants don’t need crazy decor anymore to convince New Yorkers that the cuisine is worthwhile. And while I really wish just one holdover from the 1940s or 1950s had survived into the modern age as a historical relic, they’re kaput, and no amount of scouting will bring them back.

It’s usually about this time that the director finally accepts the truth, and the decision is made to either go with one of the options we’ve scouted (with some added set dressing), or build it on a stage.

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I don’t blame directors for hating the plainer options I’ve shown above – white walls and minimal decor look absolutely terrible on film, and you’d never film in such a place.

But I really wish they’d realize that the reason they think New York is filled with MIB-style Chinese restaurants is not because of reality, but because of what they’ve seen in the movies and on TV. For a city that has nearly everything, there’s a LOT of alternatives to choose from, and I really hate having to fake the few things it doesn’t have just to do the same cliche over and over and over and over…

But you know what? My fortune cookie portends a future where this search will come up again and again. I guess I should forget it. It’s Chinatown.

Love to hear any memories you have bygone NY Chinese restaurants!

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PS – Oh, and as a sidenote, I’ve never eaten in a NYC Chinese restaurant with a guy like this.

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  1. JustAnotherNewYorker Avatar
    JustAnotherNewYorker

    Chinese Tuxedo was perfect, both in and out, except for the proximity to the old elevated trains. Alas, all that’s left is some brickwork arches on the old building.

  2. heather Avatar
    heather

    just eat the fucking cookie

  3. John Scott Tynes Avatar

    FYI, fortune cookies were not invented in California, or in China for that matter. They come from a village in Japan where they are still made today:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/16/travel/16iht-fortune.9260526.html?_r=0

  4. Armando Gascón Avatar

    I can assure you there’s a Chinese restaurant in Alicante, Spain, EXACTLY like the ones in the movies, including big Chinaman reading Chinese newspaper having tea and red decor, dragons, the lot.
    Mind you, the food is rubbish, as the patrons “un-eat” right there outside the door !

  5. Mirdreams Avatar
    Mirdreams

    There’s a place in the Bronx that might work for you: http://www.hawaiiseanyc.com/index.html They definitely have the red wallpaper.

  6. Hüseyin Avatar

    Sesli Sohbetin Tek adresi….
    SesliChat

  7. Jess from Hong Kong Avatar
    Jess from Hong Kong

    I’m so sorry. I can’t resist. But looking at this picture all I can hear in my head is
    ~~~~~GONGGGGGGG~~~~~

  8. Nicholas Avatar
    Nicholas

    There are a lot of Indian restaurants that are more in line with this sort of design and could probably be changed around a little.

  9. dragonet2 Avatar
    dragonet2

    There used to be one in Topeka, KS, of all places, that had lush decor. Alas, have not been there since we abandoned living in Lawrence for the ‘lights’ (and better jobs) of Kansas City, MO.

    I live in midtown, close to downtown. Alas, all of our Chinese, Thai and etc. restaurants are pretty plebian and/or modern in decor. There are also a couple that are on the edge of nasty, so we quit eating there for fear of getting ill (spotted mice in one, running free on the floor. Killed a couple roaches in the other. both before ordering and we left).

  10. Gary J. Grieco Avatar
    Gary J. Grieco

    Further to a previous comment regarding the “over the top” Chinese restaurant in Denville, NJ — it’s actually the real deal, from many points of view. Their building is a Chinese Buddhist temple that was disassembled in Taipai, Taiwan, shipped in coded pieces, and then reassembled in New Jersey. The food quality is off-the-charts and they have several unique dishes. Their edamame dumplings are to die for! They have two Chinese lamb dishes, great whole fish dishes, etc. A college professor visiting from Mainland China once told me that their Peking Duck was the most authentic he had tasted in the States — something to do with imported Chinese vinegar, I believe. Their wine list is extensive (in a Chinese restaurant, mind you) and Steve the bartender is the best at his trade. So if I were to pick a Chinese restaurant in the NYC area, this “over the top” one would do it. And by the way, I’m not in any way associated with the restaurant — just a big fan.

  11. niki p Avatar
    niki p

    hi!
    i remember we used to eat at this place when i was growing up.
    it’s in queens, but has a pretty good atmosphere, if a bit on the tiki side…

    http://www.kingyumrestaurant.com/gallery.html

  12. Dare Avatar
    Dare

    It’s not in New York City, but:
    Emerald City
    4905 Washtenaw Ave.
    Ann Arbor, MI
    http://www.panoramio.com/m/photo/63760113

    I’ll admit that I frequent this place more for the atmosphere than the food. Which is New York style Chinese. Unfortunately, last time I was there I noticed that they were slowly “updating” the decor. I actually talked to one of the managers about this In an attempt to convince them to keep the beautiful over-the-top “retro-vintage” decor of waterfalls, red & hilt wallpaper, Chinese lanterns, Golden dragon statues, wall sized fishtanks etc..

  13. Jess Avatar
    Jess

    Check out Ruby Foo’s on Times Square. Red walls? Check. Crazy dragons? Check. Dark atmosphere? Check. Lanterns? Check. It doesn’t get better than that.

  14. Kaleberg Avatar
    Kaleberg

    Kowloon is a bit north of Boston. Its Luau Room has the right look, deliberately campy. (http://kowloonrestaurant.com/) Apparently, Jerry Seinfeld played there.

    There used to be a Chinese restaurant decorations district in the 20s near Madison Square. (It was hard by the old Christmas decorations district.) You’d see shops with red lacquer screens, oversized gold Buddhas, “exotic” wall hangings, Chinese lanterns and so on. I always thought it would be a gas to decorate one’s apartment with stuff from there. Sadly, it has vanished, along with the Christmas district which sold fake trees, ornaments and the like – to the trade – year round.

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  18. Glenn Avatar
    Glenn

    There is a really over the top one in the town I live in, Haugesund, Norway of all places, if you’d beleive that. Red/golden wallpaper check, carpets, check, old 80s pictures of Hong kong and Beijing, check. a small pond with carps in it, inside the restaurant too. It’s completely over the top, to the point of having golden buddha statues by the entrances. XD

  19. Sean Foley Avatar
    Sean Foley

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  20. Sean Foley Avatar
    Sean Foley

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