The 8th Avenue Post Office is extremely film friendly – shoot me an email for details at nycscout@gmail.com!

On October 9th & 10th, 2010, over 350 sites, tours, and events were made available to the public FREE for the annual Open House New York program. Open House New York is…well, an open house of New York City! A ton of fantastic options were offered this year, and OHNY graciously allowed me to take a few tours in advance to help spread the word.

My first choice? A tour of the James A. Farley Post Office at 33rd Street & 8th Ave.

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Why a post office? Because in a decade or two, this…

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…will look like this:

Moynihan 2006 Train Hall

The Farley Post Office is on track to become Moynihan Station, an extension of Penn Station, which will help alleviate a significant amount of congestion. You can see the center of the Farley building below – the roof will be removed and replaced by the atrium pictured above:

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Finally, Amtrak commuters will enter New York City through a station with prestige and class, as opposed to the underground armpit that is the current Penn Station. Meanwhile, the 8th Avenue side of the Farley building will continue to operate as New York’s 10001 post office.

What are they going to do with all the postal workers? In fact, about 90% of the building is already vacant. And covering an entire city block, that means a LOT of interesting places for OHNY guests to tour, including empty offices, an old cafeteria, a medical wing, a police wing, and more! For those that weren’t lucky enough to snag a tour this year, hopefully this post will give you a thorough look inside.

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The 8th Avenue facade was built in 1912 and meant to match the grandeur of Pennsylvania Station across the street.

Lining the top of the facade is the famous quote: “Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds.” Contrary to popular belief this is not the motto of the US post office, and was actually selected by McKim, Mead & White, the architecture firm responsible for the design, from Herodotus’ description of the reliable postal service messengers under Xerxes I of Persia (fun fact: it was carved by Ira Schnapp, who would later design the Action Comics logo, and many others for DC).

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While I was waiting for my tour guides, I took a moment to admire the lobby.

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Farley is one of New York’s grandest post office, and walking in feels like a step back in time.

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Though it could use some restoration work, details of the past shine on to this day, including the intricate ceiling design work:

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Anyone know why the initials R. F. are inscribed on the ceiling? [update – readers tell me that several national seals adorn the ceiling (Russia pictured above), and this probably stands for Republic of France]:

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If you’re ever in the lobby, be sure to check out the north and south rotundas, where a number of interesting postal artifacts are on display. For example, an Irish mailbox…

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Its schedule primarily in Gaelic:

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An old rural route mail delivery horse-drawn carriage…

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A sweet mail courier bike from the 1920’s:

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And a plaque remembering the sinking of the USS Maine, actually cast from its wreckage:

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I met my guides from ESDC and we headed inside the building.

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I should add that the building is very film friendly, and would be happy to consider any proposals for shoots on the property. If you like something you see in my pictures, shoot me an email and I’ll direct you to the reps in charge.

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As we headed deeper through long hallways and winding staircases, I began to pick up on the many little details amassed during the building’s near-century long existence. The LOOK sign has a 70’s feel, no?

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Most of the windowed still have hand-stenciled lettering:.

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Our first stop was an old sorting area in the center of the building, which will one day become the new Moynihan Terminal. A sky‐lit train hall on the scale of Grand Central Terminal will be built overhead. Train tracks already run below the building (mail was once delivered here by traincar), and phase 1 of the project is about to officially start, consisting of critically important transportation infrastructure improvements.

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We then headed up a flight into what used to be a cafeteria. This area would have been filled with tables…

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Remnants of a white-tiled kitchen:

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As we walked deeper into the building, I began to get a sense of just how enormous – and empty – it really is.

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I have to be honest, looking at the Farley Building from the street, the last thing I’d ever imagine inside are dark, empty hallways and crumbling rooms.

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There are a lot of fantastic filming spaces inside. I love the arched window in this former office area:

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We crossed the floor, heading through another office wing…

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A VIP office? Everything reminded me of Mad Men

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Across more empty office space…

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We then found ourselves in a hallway stretching the length of the building and overlooking the main post office area below.

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This floor was once home to the Postal Police!

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Though you’d never expect them to need it, this area used to be a jail cell for the Postal Police’s use:

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You can still see marks from the bars in the floor:

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We continued into the old Postal Police offices…

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This was the main hallway for the police wing:

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One of the neat things about the offices in this wing…

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…is that they’re all connected! Literally, a path through all 10 or 12 offices:

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An old safe in the Police wing…

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The safe is as old as the building:

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Inside the safe:

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Evidence!

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There are a ton of different office styles. From the white drywall and linoleum floors of this room…

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…we turned a corner and found ourselves in office straight out of a 1970’s cop show:

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These wood-paneled offices are also part of the former police wing…

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Many still have their wooden radiator covers:

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Right out of Serpico:

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These offices are interconnected in the same way as the first:

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Another window:

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Many of the bathrooms are pretty old, with white tiles, porcelain sinks…

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…and marble stalls:

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Two important signs still up over the sinks:

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And:

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Up another flight of colorfully painted stairs…

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This sign gives you a sense of how crowded the place once was during full operation.

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At its peak, the building housed over 4,000 employees, and a medical wing was essential. I love this old hand-painted sign:

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We headed through a pair of double-doors into the old medical wing…

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On one door:

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And the other:

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The first room has an old nurse’s office…

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The sign:

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Inside, a really interesting device by one window:

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Recognize this?

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Ha, don’t feel bad if you didn’t:

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An Electrepel Electronic Bird Repeller! I would really, really like to know if they scared the birds away by zapping them:

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A tile bathroom:

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An old key cabinet…

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…with keys to the supply room, x-ray room…and another key cabinet!

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Beds were set up in a nearby room, and workers were encouraged to take rests rather than go home:

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Very pretty to this day, despite some decay:

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Another bathroom…

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I love the old soap holder:

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Medical Officer door stencil:

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We walked down a few more hallways, coming to the post office’s photography department.

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The dark room:

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Another York Safe:

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We passed through another office room. If only these were what passed for cubicles today…

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Another large sorting room:

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A couple of inner offices:

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Time card holders still on the walls:

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We then entered a waiting area…

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The windows still have their gold-stenciling:

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I love the glow through the frosted windows from behind:

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I didn’t see any articles loose in the mails, unfortunately:

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In the waiting room, I noticed two signs from times past. First, a shelter area sign:

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Then, a light switch sticker that feels very 70’s(80’s?)-ish to me.

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Another hallway with stenciled doors…

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Several with gorgeous wooden doorways…

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Finally, we entered one of the largest areas in the building: an enormous sorting complex that covered an entire corner of the building:

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Absolutely huge, and with high ceilings and a number of freight elevators that open directly onto it, this could be an excellent place to build small sets for film productions:

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I really love the overhead offices:

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I also love this sign – is this a motto? Productivity, Productivity, Productivity, Service!

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We headed down one last flight of stairs, passing this warning…

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…And my favorite sign in the whole building:

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Our last stop was the basement. The tracks run one floor below:

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Again, lots of space, and all of it completely vacant:

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I was told this device once played a roll in shooting mail from all over the building to train cars below:

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I headed out through the glass-covered loading dock…

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…which is also available for shoots:

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And back onto the street!

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Until this tour, I had no idea just how enormous the Farley building is, and its near total vacancy just makes it feel all the more vast. OHNY guests are in for a fun tour this weekend, and hopefully millions of New Yorkers will one day enjoy it as an extension of Penn Station.

-SCOUT

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  1. jeff Avatar

    unbelievable how much potential has been untapped for so long. think about all the revenue the govt should be getting from this if it were rented out or used in some manner.

  2. mike Avatar
    mike

    Thanks for this great photo tour! I really enjoyed it.

  3. Becky Avatar
    Becky

    Any idea when the renovation will begin. It seems like we hear this announcement every couple of years,
    but nothing happens. In this economic climate, I suppose it could be another 15 years.

  4. Catherine Avatar

    You knocked another one out of the park – thanks for the lunchtime reverie – it makes another dull accounting day better.

  5. LAF Avatar
    LAF

    Now that Christie has killed the NJ-NY train tunnel, what happens to the Moynihan Building? Another 30 years of emptiness? or land too valuable to leave for better budget days?

  6. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    The whole idea of moving Penn Station to this site, at vast expense and huge disruption, is truly silly. Born out of nostalgia for the grandeur of the old Penn Station, it’s the equivalent of spending a billion dollars for an aesthetic whim. The building, if it’s landmarked, as I believe, is not in danger of being torn down; so better to develop the site more sensibly.

  7. daria Avatar
    daria

    Just want to join the others in thanking you for this (clearly) labor of love… well done and endlessly fascinating.

  8. ED Avatar
    ED

    I had worked on some of the architectural models for the proposed station. The ideas and designs changed dramatically throughout the years, with at one point a proposal was done to move the sports teams to the post office. Eliminating MSG and creating a new station. I am no longer involved in the project so I am not a aware of the current proposed state, but I am sure this will change and will continue changing. It was my understanding while working on the models that this project has been ongoing for 10 years plus, and I am sure that it will still involve eliminating and re-designing MSG. A lot of people are still upset about the construction and placement of that building (MSG) and will do anything to change it. GREAT PICTURES!!!
    -E

  9. Melissa Avatar
    Melissa

    It looks like they really took care of their workers in those day.

  10. phimsac.net Avatar

    scout,
    i’ve never lived in NY and am not in the film industry but i love your blog because i love the history you show. thanks!!!

  11. Marguerite Avatar
    Marguerite

    Thanks for the tour. MY parents use to tell me about these wonderful places. They lived there during the 1920’s to 1936. My Dad was born in Inwood LI, NY 1902. Moved to my Mothers home of Johnson City, NY after I was born at NYC Hospital. 1936. A shame that these places sit there doing nothing, when they could be made into apartments for the elderly and business, putting people to work. They could still keep the Historic look. We are so good at forgetting our histories and tear down historical sites to put in a parking lot.

  12. Theda Altobell Avatar

    Very interesting article post. Definitely will read more…

  13. Philly G Avatar
    Philly G

    Oh wow, I managed to find this site after looking up what it takes ( which is apparently not living in small town Ontario Canada) to become a location scout.

    I could correct the above to say “found this site again”. I remember enjoying this wonderful article a while back. After reading it again, I have to say that I’ll be keeping up with your site regularly.

    Oh, and if you ever need a location that requires fields, cows, corn, and a historic Victorian homes district, let me know ;).

  14. Ben Ireland Avatar
    Ben Ireland

    That’s not a genuine Irish post-box as most of our post-boxes are old british ones merely painted green. It was done a few months after independence and many are still used to this day.

  15. Jerry Torres Avatar
    Jerry Torres

    My older brother Mike worked in that building for many years as a Letter Carrier for the USPS…Great memories thx

  16. Lorelei Alford Strickland Avatar
    Lorelei Alford Strickland

    I worked for Sears Roebuck & Co. located on 31st and 8th Ave back in 1963 after graduating from High School. I would go to buy stamps in this beautiful grand post office, never thinking that at some point in time our need for mail would reduce us to tear down a great business such as the United States Post Office. The interior of this building with it magnificent splendor will be missed. Times change and out of necessity it will be used for something more important to the city. I am so happy to hear they will not destroy the exterior building…it would be like taking down the Collisium in Rome. Thank you for your pictures….and blog.

  17. Annie Avatar
    Annie

    The new use of the Farley building was inspired by the relationship between Union Station and the Old City Post Office Building (home to the Postal Museum). They’re even copying the atrium feature.

  18. Anthony Avatar
    Anthony

    As a former employee of the GPO and JAF buildings, I remember fondly the friendships of other employees I met and worked with there. I worked there from 1978 through 1980. Morgan facility re-opened in late 1979 and outgoing mail moved to that building. Over time, Morgan’s size was doubled by the addition of the south building and more of the incoming and outgoing distribution moved there. When I returned to JAF in 1993, only local mail delivery, carriers and clerks, window services, and NY District offices were located there. In 1978, the building was always busy with hundreds of employees 24 hours a day.

  19. Christine Avatar
    Christine

    I am looking for info and /or pictures of the Penn Post Bar and Grill which was located on the south corner across from the Post Office on 8th ave. It was in business in the 1930’s and during the depression. Thank you

  20. miller lindsay Avatar

    Worked there 5yrs from 72 to 77 real big place.

    1. Terry R Avatar
      Terry R

      I am a postal employee too, although I never worked in that particular bldg… I had to go there for a test one time..( MAN IS THAT PLACE HUGE! & beautiful