The 8th Avenue Post Office is extremely film friendly – shoot me an email for details at nycscout@gmail.com!

On October 9th & 10th, 2010, over 350 sites, tours, and events were made available to the public FREE for the annual Open House New York program. Open House New York is…well, an open house of New York City! A ton of fantastic options were offered this year, and OHNY graciously allowed me to take a few tours in advance to help spread the word.

My first choice? A tour of the James A. Farley Post Office at 33rd Street & 8th Ave.

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Why a post office? Because in a decade or two, this…

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…will look like this:

Moynihan 2006 Train Hall

The Farley Post Office is on track to become Moynihan Station, an extension of Penn Station, which will help alleviate a significant amount of congestion. You can see the center of the Farley building below – the roof will be removed and replaced by the atrium pictured above:

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Finally, Amtrak commuters will enter New York City through a station with prestige and class, as opposed to the underground armpit that is the current Penn Station. Meanwhile, the 8th Avenue side of the Farley building will continue to operate as New York’s 10001 post office.

What are they going to do with all the postal workers? In fact, about 90% of the building is already vacant. And covering an entire city block, that means a LOT of interesting places for OHNY guests to tour, including empty offices, an old cafeteria, a medical wing, a police wing, and more! For those that weren’t lucky enough to snag a tour this year, hopefully this post will give you a thorough look inside.

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The 8th Avenue facade was built in 1912 and meant to match the grandeur of Pennsylvania Station across the street.

Lining the top of the facade is the famous quote: “Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds.” Contrary to popular belief this is not the motto of the US post office, and was actually selected by McKim, Mead & White, the architecture firm responsible for the design, from Herodotus’ description of the reliable postal service messengers under Xerxes I of Persia (fun fact: it was carved by Ira Schnapp, who would later design the Action Comics logo, and many others for DC).

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While I was waiting for my tour guides, I took a moment to admire the lobby.

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Farley is one of New York’s grandest post office, and walking in feels like a step back in time.

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Though it could use some restoration work, details of the past shine on to this day, including the intricate ceiling design work:

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Anyone know why the initials R. F. are inscribed on the ceiling? [update – readers tell me that several national seals adorn the ceiling (Russia pictured above), and this probably stands for Republic of France]:

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If you’re ever in the lobby, be sure to check out the north and south rotundas, where a number of interesting postal artifacts are on display. For example, an Irish mailbox…

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Its schedule primarily in Gaelic:

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An old rural route mail delivery horse-drawn carriage…

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A sweet mail courier bike from the 1920’s:

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And a plaque remembering the sinking of the USS Maine, actually cast from its wreckage:

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I met my guides from ESDC and we headed inside the building.

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I should add that the building is very film friendly, and would be happy to consider any proposals for shoots on the property. If you like something you see in my pictures, shoot me an email and I’ll direct you to the reps in charge.

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As we headed deeper through long hallways and winding staircases, I began to pick up on the many little details amassed during the building’s near-century long existence. The LOOK sign has a 70’s feel, no?

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Most of the windowed still have hand-stenciled lettering:.

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Our first stop was an old sorting area in the center of the building, which will one day become the new Moynihan Terminal. A sky‐lit train hall on the scale of Grand Central Terminal will be built overhead. Train tracks already run below the building (mail was once delivered here by traincar), and phase 1 of the project is about to officially start, consisting of critically important transportation infrastructure improvements.

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We then headed up a flight into what used to be a cafeteria. This area would have been filled with tables…

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Remnants of a white-tiled kitchen:

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As we walked deeper into the building, I began to get a sense of just how enormous – and empty – it really is.

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I have to be honest, looking at the Farley Building from the street, the last thing I’d ever imagine inside are dark, empty hallways and crumbling rooms.

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There are a lot of fantastic filming spaces inside. I love the arched window in this former office area:

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We crossed the floor, heading through another office wing…

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A VIP office? Everything reminded me of Mad Men

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Across more empty office space…

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We then found ourselves in a hallway stretching the length of the building and overlooking the main post office area below.

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This floor was once home to the Postal Police!

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Though you’d never expect them to need it, this area used to be a jail cell for the Postal Police’s use:

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You can still see marks from the bars in the floor:

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We continued into the old Postal Police offices…

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This was the main hallway for the police wing:

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One of the neat things about the offices in this wing…

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…is that they’re all connected! Literally, a path through all 10 or 12 offices:

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An old safe in the Police wing…

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The safe is as old as the building:

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Inside the safe:

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Evidence!

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There are a ton of different office styles. From the white drywall and linoleum floors of this room…

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…we turned a corner and found ourselves in office straight out of a 1970’s cop show:

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These wood-paneled offices are also part of the former police wing…

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Many still have their wooden radiator covers:

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Right out of Serpico:

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These offices are interconnected in the same way as the first:

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Another window:

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Many of the bathrooms are pretty old, with white tiles, porcelain sinks…

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…and marble stalls:

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Two important signs still up over the sinks:

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And:

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Up another flight of colorfully painted stairs…

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This sign gives you a sense of how crowded the place once was during full operation.

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At its peak, the building housed over 4,000 employees, and a medical wing was essential. I love this old hand-painted sign:

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We headed through a pair of double-doors into the old medical wing…

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On one door:

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And the other:

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The first room has an old nurse’s office…

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The sign:

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Inside, a really interesting device by one window:

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Recognize this?

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Ha, don’t feel bad if you didn’t:

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An Electrepel Electronic Bird Repeller! I would really, really like to know if they scared the birds away by zapping them:

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A tile bathroom:

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An old key cabinet…

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…with keys to the supply room, x-ray room…and another key cabinet!

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Beds were set up in a nearby room, and workers were encouraged to take rests rather than go home:

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Very pretty to this day, despite some decay:

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Another bathroom…

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I love the old soap holder:

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Medical Officer door stencil:

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We walked down a few more hallways, coming to the post office’s photography department.

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The dark room:

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Another York Safe:

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We passed through another office room. If only these were what passed for cubicles today…

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Another large sorting room:

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A couple of inner offices:

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Time card holders still on the walls:

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We then entered a waiting area…

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The windows still have their gold-stenciling:

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I love the glow through the frosted windows from behind:

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I didn’t see any articles loose in the mails, unfortunately:

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In the waiting room, I noticed two signs from times past. First, a shelter area sign:

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Then, a light switch sticker that feels very 70’s(80’s?)-ish to me.

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Another hallway with stenciled doors…

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Several with gorgeous wooden doorways…

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Finally, we entered one of the largest areas in the building: an enormous sorting complex that covered an entire corner of the building:

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Absolutely huge, and with high ceilings and a number of freight elevators that open directly onto it, this could be an excellent place to build small sets for film productions:

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I really love the overhead offices:

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I also love this sign – is this a motto? Productivity, Productivity, Productivity, Service!

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We headed down one last flight of stairs, passing this warning…

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…And my favorite sign in the whole building:

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Our last stop was the basement. The tracks run one floor below:

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Again, lots of space, and all of it completely vacant:

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I was told this device once played a roll in shooting mail from all over the building to train cars below:

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I headed out through the glass-covered loading dock…

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…which is also available for shoots:

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And back onto the street!

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Until this tour, I had no idea just how enormous the Farley building is, and its near total vacancy just makes it feel all the more vast. OHNY guests are in for a fun tour this weekend, and hopefully millions of New Yorkers will one day enjoy it as an extension of Penn Station.

-SCOUT

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  1. Adam807 Avatar
    Adam807

    I totally remember those light switch stickers. They were all over my elementary school. So definitely late 70s/early 80s.

  2. Andre Flaneur Avatar
    Andre Flaneur

    The photo above the “RF” one shows the coat of arms of the Russian Empire, so I infer that the ceiling is decorated with symbols of foreign nations, among which was (and is) “RF” in a classical-looking serif font, short for, and embelmatic of “Republique Francaise”. (I don’t know how to do the acute accent on the first “e” or the cedilla on the “c”, but you get the picture.)
    Is there a prize for the right answer? ; )

  3. Andre Flaneur Avatar
    Andre Flaneur

    Or even “emblematic”. I really should focus on proofreading and forget about accents …

  4. John Evans Avatar

    That’s awesome! It’s amazing to see how huge it is, and so many different areas…

  5. Allie Avatar

    Andre is right about the RF=Republique Francaise. It’s used currently on the French euro: http://i.ucoin.net/coin/0/5/521_2s/france_10_euro_cents_2008.jpg

  6. bjmack Avatar
    bjmack

    scout, glad your back to your old self. great pictures and link to an era so long ago. you can feel the energy and time frame by your excellent photography. as always, thanks much!

  7. Billy Avatar
    Billy

    Amazing. I’ve always wanted to get a look see inside of the old post office building. The exterior is beautiful, fortunately they are not touching that with the new train station. I would imagine that the interior will be gutted, with all that history. Thank you for your blog, its become crack for me.

  8. Colin Avatar
    Colin

    The new railroad tunnels will be dead-ending in Moynihan Station, and will only be used by NJ Transit. Amtrak commuters will still enter the city via Penn.

  9. Doug C. Avatar
    Doug C.

    Looks like marble in the bathroom stall, it was used commonly in the grander buildings.

    1. Kevin Barr Avatar
      Kevin Barr

      I’ve had the pleasure of working in several post office buildings in the past 28 years. My favorite office is the old downtown office in Ithaca, NY. Built in 1928 if memory serves me right. During the New Deal program, top notch designers and craftsman were used, and gave us some fantastic federal style buildings. Most large post offices had marble throughout the facilities. Yes even the restrooms had marble walls and stalls.

  10. KevinSeattle Avatar
    KevinSeattle

    Awesome post ( . . . office). Do you know when the areas of the building you toured were vacated?

    1. Scout Avatar

      No, wasn’t told, but within the last five years or so.

  11. Monica Burns Avatar

    Scout visiting your blog is always one of the highlights of my day when you post. Seeing NYC, the city I love best in the whole world, and all the other posts through your eyes makes me realize how beautiful the country really is.

  12. Frank R Avatar
    Frank R

    This is my first visit to scoutingny.com but it surely will not be my last. Thank you for such a fun tour of a historic wonder that many will now be able to experience!

  13. Eddy Rhead Avatar
    Eddy Rhead

    Its great that someone has the foresight to re-use this beautiful building in such an imaginative and useful way.
    I remember being impressed by this building on a visit to NYC many years ago.

    Does anyone know why they would need a photographic darkroom?

  14. Jenn Avatar

    Really amazing! Thanks so much for this!

  15. Katie Truelove Avatar

    I love that post office. I was too late to sign up for the tours that I really wanted to go on for Open House NY…perhaps next year. ps- I look forward to the day when you get an inside tour of the Chrysler Building;)

  16. James C. Taylor Avatar

    Wow! You are an amazing blogger — fascinating and meticulous!

  17. Mucky Fingers Avatar
    Mucky Fingers

    Fantastic! So many photos, all of them elegant in showcasing a dormant part of the past. Thank you for your work and for sharing it!

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    Mara

    The vault door on pic 37 looks like it has an old time-lock on the door. Those things are worth money. They’re beautifully handcrafted.
    Can I please have the stair banister on that first set of stairs, the ones that look brassy? Just lovely. I hope those are kept in.

    Once again, a fabulous bunch of photos. Thank you so much for posting them.

  19. Sarah Avatar

    I tried to get a spot on this tour on the first day they announced the schedule and it was already booked. Thanks for posting these pictures–although they only make me wish I could’ve gotten on the tour even more!

  20. CD Avatar
    CD

    I’ve used the 8th ave post office many times so it’s very cool to see there is so much behind that narrow hall…

    What normally happens when they rip out the interior to a place like this? I imagine the marble and piping might be sold off, but what about the cool doors and signage? Are those the sorts of thing normally salvaged? Or does it all end up in a trash heap?