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Continuing along where we last left off, Travis takes Betsy to Times Square for their ill-fated movie date. Exactly where they are is tough to place as they walk along Broadway/7th Ave, but based on the median, I believe they’re at the corner of 45th & Broadway (note that this section of Broadway is now closed off to traffic as a pedestrian walkway):

 

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Travis takes Betsy to the Lyric, a former 42nd Street playhouse and movie theater.

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The actual show Travis brings Betsy to see is not the above-advertised Sometime Sweet Susan, but actually, a 1969 Swedish sex educational film called Language of Love. Currently, the Hilton Theatre is gearing up for the 2010 release of the Spider-man musical.

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In this photo, you can see the full Lyric facade. Originally designed as an opera school, the Lyric opened as a theater in 1903, with 1,350 seats, 2 balconies, and 18 box seats. In 1934, it was converted into a movie theater to survive the Depression. At some point along the way, it became a porno theater. In 1994, the Lyric and neighboring Apollo theater (on the left) were demolished to make way for a theater combining the two. Major architectural elements were carefully removed and re-installed in the new building, which currently is known as the Hilton Theatre.

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Shortly after the film begins, Betsy storms out of the Lyric (would she have the same problem with Spider-man: Turn Off The Dark?).

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Travis desperately tries to talk with Betsy, offering us a glimpse across the street of what I believe is the New Amsterdam theater (like the Lyric, it had been converted from a theatrical stage to a movie house during the Depression and was in shambles by the time Disney leased it in 1993).

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If you look closely, the theater across the street is playing Clint Eastwood’s The Eiger Sanction:

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Travis later stops at McAnn’s Bar, a location I cannot find anywhere. There are several McAnn’s in the city, but none of them have addresses that match the building numbering (McAnn’s should be 692 or 694…). Any ideas?

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Travis makes a call to Betsy to apologize, and amazingly, this scene was shot in a place where I spend a good amount of time when working on films: the lobby of the Ed Sullivan Theater building which, in addition to the Letterman studio, also houses the Mayor’s Office of Film. It’s looking quite a bit different these days, but I like that they left the metal phone book holder:

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Angry, Travis storms around the corner out the front door:

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Travis tries unsuccessfully to talk to Betsy at the campaign office, and while we’ve already covered the location in detail, I wanted to note the oddly-named restaurant across the street, “Aunt Fish” (no longer around, of course).

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Travis then meets up with his buddies at the Belmore Cafeteria, a former grease joint on the corner of 28th & Park. Sadly, the owner sold the property in 1981, and a bland highrise was built in its place:

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An angled view of the new building:

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Travis steps outside with fellow cabbie Wizard for a discussion about guns. We get a quick glimpse north (the building on the right past the Belmore is now Les Halles, the restaurant owned by TV personality chef Anthony Bourdain):

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The reverse view shows a fight on the street – you can make out a pretty neat subway globe lamp. Meanwhile, a McDonalds is now on the corner.

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Across the street, more changes:

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Travis continues to follow Betsy, and parks outside her building on Broadway between 62nd & 63rd streets. Across the street, you can see the AAA building entrance, and how it looks today:

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Travis decides to check in on Iris, the young prostitute he met outside the Variety. He parks his car on 13th Street between 2nd & 3rd Aves to wait for her. It took me a good ten minutes of searching for that red door before I realized it doesn’t exist anymore:

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If you haven’t noticed, one of the key aspects that makes Taxi Driver a quintessential New York movie is that the city geography makes sense. When Travis takes Betsy to a coffee shop, for example, they head a few blocks south from the campaign headquarters at 62nd Street to a grease joint at 58th. When Travis brings Betsy to the porno theater, we see them walk a logical path down Times Square to 42nd Street. And here, when Travis reunites with Iris, he goes right around the corner from the Variety Theater, where he first met her.

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The door marked ROOMS is at 202 East 13th Street (oddly, everyone remembers this entrance, even though nothing ever happens here):

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Travis follows Iris along, passing this great wall ad for Endicott Johnson, a New York-based shoe manufacturer. The electronics store on the right is now Cafe Deville.

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Travis then speeds off, passing Gothic Cabinet Craft. Hooray! Something that still exists! The sign’s different, but it’s still the same business over 30 years later.

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I take pride in correctly guessing the location of this next shot immediately, in which Travis is picked up by the gun dealer. The only clue in the photo is that tuft of green up the street, but it’s enough to give it away as Madison Square Park, placing Travis somewhere along 5th Ave (actually at 19th street):

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As the cab comes around the corner, we get a quick look at a diner advertising “coffee shop – fountain service.” This is now a Sephora.

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Yes! Another business still around! Same hardware store on 19th street as Travis heads off in the cab.

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Travis then attends a political rally, and I can’t place this one. I was thinking it might even be in Brooklyn, with the view of the Manhattan Bridge and those warehouse-like buildings in the background. Any guesses?

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I have absolutely no idea where the R&M Super Market is (where Travis first uses his new gun).

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Travis then attends a second political rally. This was easy to locate, as the first shot features street signs (38th & Seventh Ave). Note the new fancy glass on the left…

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In this next shot, the only change is the DONT WALK and street signs. Look carefully and you’ll see what 33 years does to a wall advertisement.

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One last view of Seventh Ave:

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Travis is quickly asked to leave by a cop, and while most of these places are gone, the Spanish Taverna restaurant still exists:

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Based on the reviews, I definitely need to try this place one night (though don’t be fooled by the exterior – dishes range from $20-$40!).

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Yet another corner diner is gone – this time, The Center has been replaced by Health King. Note that everyone is looking and smiling at the camera (Travis is driving too fast to notice during the film):

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One final look at how Seventh Ave has changed:

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Back to 13th Street again, and Travis meets up with Iris. The place on the corner has been serious renovated and is now Hea, a Japanese restaurant:

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Across the street, another view of Gothic Cabinet Craft:

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Travis gets out and chats with Iris:

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Again, we see the infamous ROOMS entrance…but no one ever goes in!

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Travis has a chat with Iris’ pimp, played by Harvey Keitel. The scene takes place outside of 204 East 13th Street.:

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In this reverse shot, we get a look across the street (the buildings have all since been torn down):

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After a deal is reached, Iris and Travis continue down the street…

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…to 226 E 13th Street. Things are looking cheerier these days:

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A tilt up shows the rest of the building:

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Travis later takes Iris to a diner. Any ideas on where this might be?

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The street vendor on the right makes me wonder if this is on St. Mark’s (man, does that brick look familiar). Good to know that Gino’s Italian Ices have been around so long.

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Travis goes to the Palantine rally at Columbus Circle in what proves to be a failed attempt to assassinate the candidate:

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The angel statue featured is still around:

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As Travis flees the scene, we get a glimpse of the old Gulf + Western building on the corner, later to be stripped down and completely renovated into the Trump International Hotel (along with steel globe).

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After the bloody shootout on E 13th Street, the film concludes at the St. Regis Hotel at 55th Street & Fifth Ave. I like the new black awning:

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Travis chats with his cab buddies…

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…then meets Betsy in a cab to end the film.

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As evidenced in these past three installments, quite a lot has changed in New York since 1976. Personally, I don’t look back nostalgically on the grittier New York of the late 1970’s. As I never experienced it first hand, I believe it’s dangerous and naive to romanticize something the city has worked so desperately to rise up from. In 1976, a large portion of New York’s population people simply didn’t care, and the city suffered for it. If you pine for this level of apathy, there are plenty of other American cities going through some pretty bad rough patches you could move to, and I promise the rent will be much cheaper.

In 2009, people care. A byproduct of people caring is a city that is safer, more g-rated, more expensive, more museum-like. I agree that such an environment leaves very little room for growth, artistic or otherwise – frankly, you CAN’T have a Belmore diner at the corner of 28th & Park anymore (if you owned the place, would you not sell the property for countless millions?). While I dislike the fact that so many of the FAR more interesting locations in Taxi Driver have been replaced by Duane Reades, McDonald’s, Starbucks, and Sephora’s, I can only look at it as part of the unfortunate social evolution of New York. Ultimately, if New York City didn’t want them, they wouldn’t exist for long.

Regardless, as I stated at the beginning of this series, New York is as much a character in Taxi Driver as Travis Bickle, and Scorsese can’t be praised enough for giving it so much screen time.

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  1. Brock Avatar

    That shot at the first political rally that you thought might be in Brooklyn, is indeed Brooklyn. It’s Cadman Plaza West and either Pineapple or Cranberry Street.

    Great site!

  2. PassedPawn Avatar
    PassedPawn

    Great series, I love it! There’s one location from Taxi Driver that was skipped. The scene is very short and is one of those random shots that shows Travis driving around the city. It looks very much like 84th and Lexington Ave and the viewer briefly sees an A&P supermarket to the left of the screen. I remember that A&P there back in the 70s.

    Another film I’d like to recommend is Marathon Man. All the car chase stuff they filmed for the beginning of the film was done right in my neighborhood when everything was German on 86th street. In fact the stalled car sequence was filmed right on my block.

  3. Sam Avatar
    Sam

    Thanks so much for having done this!

  4. gabriel Avatar
    gabriel

    That was amazing 🙂 Maybe the infamous ROOMS entrance is well-known because of this promo pic of Jodie Foster in front of it: http://www.gmanreviews.com/2010/11/14/poll-results-jodie-foster-is-the-best-hooker/

  5. Crystal Miller Avatar
    Crystal Miller

    love the pictures sooooo much, ive had an obsession with NYC ever since i can remember i hope to visit and live there one day

  6. Tracy Avatar
    Tracy

    I agree with you about people romanticizing things that were terrible about the city. That drives me crazy! Street kids doing heroin is not “gritty.”

    I’ve heard from native New Yorkers over and over again about how you couldn’t go into this park or that, including ones that are vibrant today like Union Square’s park or Tompkins Square. Same about entire neighborhoods being off limits because crime was especially bad in the 80s.

    I also agree that what people long for is a few decades older than they think. What I think NYC has lost is ultimately a lot of blue collar life and culture. The loss of many diners and “dime” stores is one example. Neighborhoods where kids played ball are now so tony that you rarely see children at all, just the occasional kid being hurried off to ballet or to playdates. I mean this more about Manhattan than anywhere else, but it’s not exclusively Manhattan. And I wonder what effect the loss of the docks had in this respect. New York has lost so much of its middle class and working class. The city used to have a lot more Ralph Kramdens and fewer Carrie Bradshaws. And it had more artists, people who are now in places like Cleveland, which I’ve just moved back to myself.

    I love Pete Hamill’s book Downtown: My Manhattan. He also rejects the romanticized 80s Time Square, but what I especially appreciate is his noting that New Yorkers are always in a state of mourning the past because change happens so quickly. One of my favorite books.

    Thanks so much for this amazing site!

  7. Luis Antezana Avatar

    Searching the New York Times yields some results showing McAnn’s at 692 3rd Ave (and some health code violations!).

    I love your site and efforts like this are outstanding.

    Thank you so much

  8. danny Avatar
    danny

    Wow! You have done a tremendous service and job identifying and photographing the various NYC locations in Taxi Driver. I absolutely love to make these type of comparisons and I didn’t realize there were others out there like me.

    I was born in Brooklyn in 1972 and it is very difficult for me to remember the 1970s as I was so young. I do remember going to Times Sq. in the early 1980s though; I was probably around 10 years old.

    Although I do not necessarily love modern NYC, it is my opinion that it is certainly preferable to the NYC of the 1970s to early 1990s. NYC esp. Times Sq., was so seedy and NYC was pretty dangerous, particularly in the 1980s and early 90s. It amazes me how we have turned it around and there are areas throughout NYC that you couldn’t even walk through 20-35 years ago, including areas of Brooklyn such as Atlantic Ave, Prospect Park, etc that are now relatively safe and family friendly. I kind of like the grittiness of the 1970s but do not necessarily miss it, and my family really enjoys our visits to Manhattan. When we take our son to the city, there is so much for him to see, so many cool things going on, and as parents we don’t really have to worry as our parents probably worried about us when we were young. Don’t get me wrong, we worry and are cautious, but probably about different things.

    I get excited when I see that a place of business in a movie such as TD still exists today. There aren’t many left. I also enjoy, however, looking at the actual physical structure of buildings for similarities. For example, your pics of Travis talking to Harvey Keitel outside of 204 East 13th St is pretty cool in that the bldg is still there and the columns are the same although painted a different color. Or the pics where Travis is waiting for Iris on 13th street between 2nd and 3rd Aves may demonstrate that the red door is no longer there, but the door to the adjacent bldg is the same one…In fact, I think that is the same fire hydrant in both pictures! I guess I’m weird for noticing these things.

    It is kind of strange that a number of establishments from the 1940s and 1950s still existed in the 1970s and early 1980s crossing generations. However, establishments from the 1970s no longer exist, although it is the same time frame in terms of the # of years that has passed. There has been such a tremendous change in NYC real estate over the past 30 years, where so much was torn down and rebuilt, which on the whole has been for the better, in my humble opinion.

    I also often wonder what was on the minds of NYers back then. I kind of wish I could just transport myself back to those times and just hear what the average conversation was like. I wonder what moviegoers thought of Taxi Driver when it was over. I’m sure many were put off by the violent ending back then but now we’ve been exposed to so much violence in movies and culture that we’re kind of desensitized to it all and the ending (which I still appreciate) probably wouldn’t be that shocking to many and probably has the look of low budget (since modern special effects and technology wasn’t available back then but what we are accustomed to today).

    Enough of my rant, but here are some movies/tv shows I would like to see you scout:

    Saturday Night Fever
    Taking of Pelham 123 (Original with Mathau)
    Welcome Back Kotter (I know Lafayette HS is in the intro but the intro scene where the person is riding the bike- which block is that?)
    Woody Allen movies
    The Warriors

    I’m sure there are many more possibilities.

  9. nycgirl Avatar
    nycgirl

    I really enjoyed this wonderful and thorough essay. Great job!

    I would love to see a post on The Godfather. I know a lot of it is on Long Island, but there are many major NYC locations that would be great to look at.

  10. […] Plenty has been written about the locations for the movie, most notably Scouting New York, who meticulously created now and thens for a post in October 2009. […]

  11. […] comparing how certain locations looked when they were photographed in Rosemary’s Baby (1968), Taxi Driver (1976) and Ghostbusters (1984) with how they look now.Since then, Carr has posted lots of other […]

  12. Миша Avatar
    Миша

    First i thought that that’s strange, that no one has named those warehose-like buildings on the shoot of scene of Travis coming to that political rally. Unfortunately my guess was wrong: that is not Watchtower, Jehovah’s Witnesses world-HQ, it is situated left to the Brooklyn Bridge, so it’d be impossible to view it from this point for there is Manhattan bridge behind that building. Then i noticed that little tower on the top of warehose-building. I found out, that this is former factory (so-called Clock Tower Building) on 1, Main st in the area of vinegar Hills built in 1915 and recently turned into a condo. After a little so–would-be-called investigation (thank you, Google Maps & Streets, for i live far far away from NYC) i’ve come to a conclusion that it was shot somewhere on Washington st 103-115 (it’s now a trailer parking there) or little “deeper” in Brooklyn, on the Cadmar Plaza East, beyond the Brooklyn Bridge, which is more likely, but unfortunately i can’t check if it was there indeed, because there are no photos of that place in Google Streets.
    And you were right, that’s Brooklyn indeed:)

  13. Gina Avatar
    Gina

    Thanks so much for doing this! Brings back memories. Mcanns reminds me of a bar that used to be around the 90’s on Columbus Avenue, but I’m really not sure. But what I really wanted to let you know is that the grocery store where Travis first uses the gun was on Columbus Avenue between 87 th. and 88 th. streets. It and the Copper Penny (next to it in the photo you display) have been long gone. One hot summer night, a teeny tiny piece of footage from “Taxi Driver” was shot from my fire escape. It’s the piece were the boys are playing with the fire hydrant. Thanks again! & Much success to you!!!

  14. julie delano Avatar
    julie delano

    The scene where travis is speaking with the secret service agent at the rally is on Cadman Plaza West between Clark and Tillary in Brooklyn Heights.

  15. Red Avatar
    Red

    I’d like to see you do “Breakfast at Tiffany’s” and “The Out-of-Towners”. I might think of more later. Thanks!

  16. Dante Ross Avatar

    The dinner he takes Iris to eat at (With the Ginos ices stand in front) was on the SE corner 14th st and 3rd. It was a pizzeria and sleezy dinner all in one. It was below a massage parlor and up the block from the Jefferson Theatre. The bus I took home from school stopped in front of it and still does to this day (M-14). 14th street was a mini 42nd back in the 70’s full of hookers,pimps,dope fiends and porno theaters.

  17. […] Plenty has been written about the locations for the movie, most notably Scouting New York, who meticulously created now and thens for a post in October 2009. […]

  18. Lisa Peet Avatar

    I can tell you what happened to the purple “ROOMS” sign. Artist Walter Gurbo, who did “Walter Gurbo’s Drawing Room” on the back page of the Village Voice for many years, lived in that building (it was a regular apartment building, not a rooming house, at least since the early ’80s) and he bought it from the landlord. I think he had it in his daughter’s room? I lived on that block, 13th between Second and Third, for most of the ’80s and ’90s, and he was my instructor at the School of Visual Arts. I know he moved upstate, no idea if he still has the sign.

  19. David Cobb Craig Avatar
    David Cobb Craig

    Bravo! What a great job you did of birddogging the locations. Thanks for a great “Taxi” ride!