Just finding us? Start with Part 1 of our Taxi Driver examination to avoid confusion!

Continuing along where we last left off, Travis takes Betsy to Times Square for their ill-fated movie date. Exactly where they are is tough to place as they walk along Broadway/7th Ave, but based on the median, I believe they’re at the corner of 45th & Broadway (note that this section of Broadway is now closed off to traffic as a pedestrian walkway):

 

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Travis takes Betsy to the Lyric, a former 42nd Street playhouse and movie theater.

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The actual show Travis brings Betsy to see is not the above-advertised Sometime Sweet Susan, but actually, a 1969 Swedish sex educational film called Language of Love. Currently, the Hilton Theatre is gearing up for the 2010 release of the Spider-man musical.

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In this photo, you can see the full Lyric facade. Originally designed as an opera school, the Lyric opened as a theater in 1903, with 1,350 seats, 2 balconies, and 18 box seats. In 1934, it was converted into a movie theater to survive the Depression. At some point along the way, it became a porno theater. In 1994, the Lyric and neighboring Apollo theater (on the left) were demolished to make way for a theater combining the two. Major architectural elements were carefully removed and re-installed in the new building, which currently is known as the Hilton Theatre.

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Shortly after the film begins, Betsy storms out of the Lyric (would she have the same problem with Spider-man: Turn Off The Dark?).

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Travis desperately tries to talk with Betsy, offering us a glimpse across the street of what I believe is the New Amsterdam theater (like the Lyric, it had been converted from a theatrical stage to a movie house during the Depression and was in shambles by the time Disney leased it in 1993).

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If you look closely, the theater across the street is playing Clint Eastwood’s The Eiger Sanction:

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Travis later stops at McAnn’s Bar, a location I cannot find anywhere. There are several McAnn’s in the city, but none of them have addresses that match the building numbering (McAnn’s should be 692 or 694…). Any ideas?

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Travis makes a call to Betsy to apologize, and amazingly, this scene was shot in a place where I spend a good amount of time when working on films: the lobby of the Ed Sullivan Theater building which, in addition to the Letterman studio, also houses the Mayor’s Office of Film. It’s looking quite a bit different these days, but I like that they left the metal phone book holder:

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Angry, Travis storms around the corner out the front door:

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Travis tries unsuccessfully to talk to Betsy at the campaign office, and while we’ve already covered the location in detail, I wanted to note the oddly-named restaurant across the street, “Aunt Fish” (no longer around, of course).

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Travis then meets up with his buddies at the Belmore Cafeteria, a former grease joint on the corner of 28th & Park. Sadly, the owner sold the property in 1981, and a bland highrise was built in its place:

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An angled view of the new building:

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Travis steps outside with fellow cabbie Wizard for a discussion about guns. We get a quick glimpse north (the building on the right past the Belmore is now Les Halles, the restaurant owned by TV personality chef Anthony Bourdain):

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The reverse view shows a fight on the street – you can make out a pretty neat subway globe lamp. Meanwhile, a McDonalds is now on the corner.

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Across the street, more changes:

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Travis continues to follow Betsy, and parks outside her building on Broadway between 62nd & 63rd streets. Across the street, you can see the AAA building entrance, and how it looks today:

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Travis decides to check in on Iris, the young prostitute he met outside the Variety. He parks his car on 13th Street between 2nd & 3rd Aves to wait for her. It took me a good ten minutes of searching for that red door before I realized it doesn’t exist anymore:

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If you haven’t noticed, one of the key aspects that makes Taxi Driver a quintessential New York movie is that the city geography makes sense. When Travis takes Betsy to a coffee shop, for example, they head a few blocks south from the campaign headquarters at 62nd Street to a grease joint at 58th. When Travis brings Betsy to the porno theater, we see them walk a logical path down Times Square to 42nd Street. And here, when Travis reunites with Iris, he goes right around the corner from the Variety Theater, where he first met her.

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The door marked ROOMS is at 202 East 13th Street (oddly, everyone remembers this entrance, even though nothing ever happens here):

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Travis follows Iris along, passing this great wall ad for Endicott Johnson, a New York-based shoe manufacturer. The electronics store on the right is now Cafe Deville.

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Travis then speeds off, passing Gothic Cabinet Craft. Hooray! Something that still exists! The sign’s different, but it’s still the same business over 30 years later.

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I take pride in correctly guessing the location of this next shot immediately, in which Travis is picked up by the gun dealer. The only clue in the photo is that tuft of green up the street, but it’s enough to give it away as Madison Square Park, placing Travis somewhere along 5th Ave (actually at 19th street):

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As the cab comes around the corner, we get a quick look at a diner advertising “coffee shop – fountain service.” This is now a Sephora.

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Yes! Another business still around! Same hardware store on 19th street as Travis heads off in the cab.

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Travis then attends a political rally, and I can’t place this one. I was thinking it might even be in Brooklyn, with the view of the Manhattan Bridge and those warehouse-like buildings in the background. Any guesses?

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I have absolutely no idea where the R&M Super Market is (where Travis first uses his new gun).

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Travis then attends a second political rally. This was easy to locate, as the first shot features street signs (38th & Seventh Ave). Note the new fancy glass on the left…

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In this next shot, the only change is the DONT WALK and street signs. Look carefully and you’ll see what 33 years does to a wall advertisement.

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One last view of Seventh Ave:

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Travis is quickly asked to leave by a cop, and while most of these places are gone, the Spanish Taverna restaurant still exists:

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Based on the reviews, I definitely need to try this place one night (though don’t be fooled by the exterior – dishes range from $20-$40!).

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Yet another corner diner is gone – this time, The Center has been replaced by Health King. Note that everyone is looking and smiling at the camera (Travis is driving too fast to notice during the film):

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One final look at how Seventh Ave has changed:

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Back to 13th Street again, and Travis meets up with Iris. The place on the corner has been serious renovated and is now Hea, a Japanese restaurant:

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Across the street, another view of Gothic Cabinet Craft:

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Travis gets out and chats with Iris:

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Again, we see the infamous ROOMS entrance…but no one ever goes in!

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Travis has a chat with Iris’ pimp, played by Harvey Keitel. The scene takes place outside of 204 East 13th Street.:

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In this reverse shot, we get a look across the street (the buildings have all since been torn down):

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After a deal is reached, Iris and Travis continue down the street…

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…to 226 E 13th Street. Things are looking cheerier these days:

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A tilt up shows the rest of the building:

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Travis later takes Iris to a diner. Any ideas on where this might be?

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The street vendor on the right makes me wonder if this is on St. Mark’s (man, does that brick look familiar). Good to know that Gino’s Italian Ices have been around so long.

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Travis goes to the Palantine rally at Columbus Circle in what proves to be a failed attempt to assassinate the candidate:

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The angel statue featured is still around:

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As Travis flees the scene, we get a glimpse of the old Gulf + Western building on the corner, later to be stripped down and completely renovated into the Trump International Hotel (along with steel globe).

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After the bloody shootout on E 13th Street, the film concludes at the St. Regis Hotel at 55th Street & Fifth Ave. I like the new black awning:

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Travis chats with his cab buddies…

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…then meets Betsy in a cab to end the film.

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As evidenced in these past three installments, quite a lot has changed in New York since 1976. Personally, I don’t look back nostalgically on the grittier New York of the late 1970’s. As I never experienced it first hand, I believe it’s dangerous and naive to romanticize something the city has worked so desperately to rise up from. In 1976, a large portion of New York’s population people simply didn’t care, and the city suffered for it. If you pine for this level of apathy, there are plenty of other American cities going through some pretty bad rough patches you could move to, and I promise the rent will be much cheaper.

In 2009, people care. A byproduct of people caring is a city that is safer, more g-rated, more expensive, more museum-like. I agree that such an environment leaves very little room for growth, artistic or otherwise – frankly, you CAN’T have a Belmore diner at the corner of 28th & Park anymore (if you owned the place, would you not sell the property for countless millions?). While I dislike the fact that so many of the FAR more interesting locations in Taxi Driver have been replaced by Duane Reades, McDonald’s, Starbucks, and Sephora’s, I can only look at it as part of the unfortunate social evolution of New York. Ultimately, if New York City didn’t want them, they wouldn’t exist for long.

Regardless, as I stated at the beginning of this series, New York is as much a character in Taxi Driver as Travis Bickle, and Scorsese can’t be praised enough for giving it so much screen time.

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I’m taking a little break from these labor-intensive then-and-now’s, but definitely let me know what movie you’d like to see covered next. And one last time, if you’ve made it this far, think about subscribing to our RSS feed or Twitter account (if you haven’t already) for future updates!

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  1. Jas Avatar
    Jas

    My vote for the next movie covered is “The Taking of Pelham One Two Three” (the original of course). It’s shot all over the city (and underneath it–it would be very cool to see how different the subway platforms and even the cars look) and I think it’s a film where the city is just as much of a character as the humans.

  2. se Avatar
    se

    I’d bet good money that McAnn’s is 692 3rd Av — the bar that replaced it (Muldoon’s) has the same windows, and the same order of doors to the left for 690, 692.

    The engravers to the right has a Murray Hill exchange as well, which’d place it on the east site not on 9th av.

    1. Peter Avatar
      Peter

      The McAnn’s Bar in Taxi Driver was at 694 3rd Ave New York, NY 10017. I’m certain because I went to St. Agnes H.S. when it was on E. 44, St. We used to stop in there for Hot Sandwiches and drinks, and few years later i briefly lived above Smiler’s Deli, a few doors just north on 3rd Ave in ’78

  3. Conrad Avatar
    Conrad

    Yeah, Muldoon’s definitely looks like it’s it. My guess looked similar, but that’s spot on.

  4. Scout Avatar

    Thanks for the tips – I’ll definitely check out 3rd Ave for McAnn’s and do a little more investigating for R&M Market with that address number in mind.

    1. tanya r Avatar
      tanya r

      McAnns was definitely 692 3rd avenue. It was my family’s restaurant. Thank you – it’s so nice that some people remember the locations – at one time there were over 40.

  5. Karen Avatar
    Karen

    Hi, Scout–thanks for the clarification, and I apologize for being so defensive! I wouldn’t dispute that 1900-1950 was a golden era for NYC as NYC (even taking the Depression into account). I guess my feeling, and my memory, of Manhattan in the 1970s is that the character of that half-century was still really present, obscured though it may have been by a layer of grime. I never felt Manhattan was particularly dangerous back then–by 1976, when Taxi Driver was made, I was turning 18 and had been coming into the city from Fort Lee NJ by myself for at least 3 or 4 years. I never had a bad experience–not like I did in the ’80s, after the overcrowding of the city’s mental health care facilities led to a massive exodus of slightly dotty folks into the streets and subways–and I still could meet a starving writer in a bookstore like Doubleday’s on 5th Ave who lived in a Chelsea basement studio like something out of “My Sister Eileen.” I guarantee that Chelsea brownhouse has been renovated to a fare-thee-well and is renting for a lot more than the $50/month that guy was paying, which was low enough for him to have a low-level job that left him free to write.

    Sometimes it seems like the removal of that layer of grime took a layer of character along with it, and it’s that collateral damage I mourn.

    Thanks for letting me vent–you’re very kind! And I love this blog more than I can say, and am grateful for the glimpses of the past you keep uncovering.

  6. Steph Avatar

    Wow – that’s quite an awesome task you undertook, and with great results. The composition of your photos matches the film shots so well. Very impressive feat. So interesting to see the character of the city change over time.

  7. Benjamin Marcus Avatar
    Benjamin Marcus

    Swell work, Scout.
    “An Unmarried Woman” would be nice and relatively easy. “The Naked City” would be amazing but would required a lot of work. “The Wrong Man”, “Shadows”, “3 Days of the Condor”, and “The Sweet Smell of Success” would all be fun. Can’t wait to tune in.

  8. Walter Avatar
    Walter

    This is a really great series you made here, and there’s so many more that can be done if it wasn’t so hard

    Network would probably be a good choice, as would Annie Hall, Manhattan, or Hannah and Her Sisters. Breakfast at Tiffany’s, North by Northwest, The Odd Couple, or The Producers could show some good 1950s/60s differences.

    But the real challenge would be finding the areas used in the original 1927 The Jazz Singer in Lower Manhattan, if any of the area even still exists.

    And the outer boroughs shouldn’t be neglected; I’d be fascinated to see how the Bronx portrayed in films in the 70s/80s (i.e. urban hellhole in Fort Apache, etc) compares to the gritty but not really that bad Bronx of today. Dog Day Afternoon’s Brooklyn would be quite easy to catalogue, though, wouldn’t it.

  9. Karen Avatar
    Karen

    Hey, as long as we’re suggesting titles for future entries, I’d suggest “Midnight Cowboy.”

  10. Julia Wertz Avatar

    My top suggestion would be Dog Day Afternoon. Also, Do The Right Thing, which would be easy enough to knock out in a day or two since they don’t go all around the city but there are definitely recognizable corners. Also the other smatterings of famous NY movies: Midnight Cowboy, Annie Hall, Sophie’s Choice I Shot Andy Warhol, etc…
    You should team up with an archivist and do it in reverse, like take a horrible NY city based show like Gossip Girl and do after/before. But that sounds like a huge waste of time.

  11. Jeff Avatar
    Jeff

    I love this series — thank you so much. I’ve looked this article over three times already. It’s ineffably mysterious and sad to think of the lives and businesses that could be entirely forgotten but for being captured briefly on film!

    Who’s up for a delicious dinner at Aunt Fish?

    Anyone? Anyone?

  12. Ben Avatar
    Ben

    Also other movie suggestions The 7 Ups, French Connection, Warriors

  13. Lassie Avatar
    Lassie

    Mike and Daniel are right on the location of the first political rally, I think. If you turn the street view around on the Google Map, you see the brick building on the left in the original shot — I work around there and, if I remember correctly, that’s a public library.

    These are a lot of fun, by the way. I second the idea of The Taking of Pelham One Two Three as your next project.

  14. Halloween Jack Avatar
    Halloween Jack

    This is a great series, excellent detective work. When I lived in NYC for a short time in the early nineties, I wanted to take the route that the Warriors took from Pelham Bay Park all the way to Coney Island via the subway (minus the shortcut that they took through the tunnels on foot; after The Taking of Pelham 123 I was mindful of that third rail!), but I couldn’t find a copy of the movie near where I lived in Brooklyn.

    Speaking of nostalgia for the big-city seventies, I’d chalk it up to a combination of looking at the past through rose-colored glasses and YMMV. I lived in Chicago in the late seventies/early eighties, and was mildly astounded at a recent blog posting about street gangs in Chicago, some of them in or near neighborhoods that I’d frequented–I don’t remember seeing any such gangs when I was in high school, although of course there were a few kids that you were told not to mess with because you’d end up getting hurt. But that could have just been a combination of luck and not spending that much time outside of my neighborhood and downtown. Same thing with Taxi Driver; someone could visit Times Square repeatedly and probably never see hookers brawling in the middle of the day.

  15. Seinberg Avatar

    As everyone else said, I think this was really awesome. Love it. You did a really great job re-creating the angles in a lot of the shots too. What’d you do — bring your laptop with you, or printouts or something? A few of them are pretty impeccable.

    Suggestion for a quick-n-dirty Now-and-Then that only has a few scenes of the city in it since it’s largely filmed inside a restaurant: My Dinner With Andre.

    Gangs of New York, of course, would be great as well. And it’d continue to the Scorsese tradition 🙂

  16. Mitch Avatar
    Mitch

    Scout –

    I have to take issue with your characterization of the populace of New York in the 1970s as apathetic. I should point out here that I was born in 1960, so I turned 16 the year this movie was filmed.

    New Yorkers in those days felt overwhelmed by the financial problems the city was having, brought on by 30 years of people moving to the suburbs (and governmental policies that favored this development). There was also more crime then than now (but it was actually much worse in the 80s and 90s than in 1976, see http://www.google.com/search?q=new+york+murder+rate+history&hl=en&hs=HAy&tbs=tl:1&tbo=u&sa=X&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=11), so people lived more “careful” lives. Many were angry or depressed and wanted to leave. There was (and this is not so often recalled) much more racism then than now. Whatever you can say, however, people were by no means apathetic.

    One should recall that Taxi Driver was intended to make the city look darker and more threatening than it actually was. Just as you don’t think DeNiro is the character he played in that film, don’t make the mistake of thinking that New York was either.

    New York was through it all an amazing place, and many people who were here at the time knew it, despite all the problems. It was, after all, why people stayed. There was an artistic outpouring that started then that flourished in Soho and other areas. The low real-estate prices meant that all sorts of odd, one-off establishments could spring up. (Think of CBGBs for example).

    Furthermore, and this is something young people can hardly understand living in the city we have now, there was an obvious connection to the city as it had existed for 200 years. There were lots of establishments that were 30, 40, 100 or more years old, and growing up then you had a real sense of history of the place.

    About 1976 I had a lobster on a lobster boat that was landing its cargo at the old Fulton Fish Market. My dad had a chat with the old salt whose boat it was, and he invited us aboard and he gave us one. There was, at that time, a restaurant across from the South Street Seaport called “Sweets” that had been there since 1842. I recall it well, and it was notable for the lack of air conditioning and the wonderful fish. Of course all of this is now gone – they turned the South Street Seaport into a mall, the Fish Market was relocated to Hunts Point, and Sweets closed in 1992.)

    If I had a choice of the New York of 1976 or 2009 to live in, I would have to say that it wouldn’t be easy to make. I might just decide to deal with all the crime and decay to live in a place with all those possibilities.

    1. Scout Avatar

      Hey Mitch –

      Thanks very much for your comments. When I wrote “In 1976, a large portion of New York’s population people simply didn’t care, and the city suffered for it,” I intentionally used the word portion to imply that it was not everyone (maybe I shouldn’t have used “large” without having the facts to back it up). I really regret even including that paragraph, because what I was trying to address was simply the people who romanticize the fictional world of Taxi Driver as something cool, something New York lost. I don’t care who you are or when you lived, the New York portrayed in TD is rotten (and I’m pretty sure Martin Scorsese would agree with that). As you correctly point out, however, it’s not an accurate representation of the city at that time.

      I also noted that the sacrifice of NY2009 is the limiting of possibilities and reduction of character. And I also agree with you – it’s a tough choice to make.

  17. Ian D Smith Avatar

    Good work. I live in the UK. I’m just back from NY, and I’m fascinated by the place. I like your comment about apathy. New Yorkers really do care. I took a few snaps on my mobile and I was amazed the attention I received. I bet you found people stopped to see what you were doing.

  18. Mitch Avatar
    Mitch

    Scout –

    Thanks for your reply. Actually, as I think on it, people are probably more apathetic now than they were then. Living in NYC now is pretty easy. You generally don’t have to worry about being a victim of a crime, whether there will be municipal layoffs, or whether your employer will move the corporate headquarters to Stanford.

    Having to confront those things really focused the mind.

    People weren’t apathetic, they were overwhelmed.

    What I am sure about is that whatever the tradeoffs there were between the NYC of 1976 and 2009 – I would rather we pay more attention to preserving the character the city has left, Our current mayor has no interest in this – in fact he often appears hostile to it – and in the long run the city is paying for it,

  19. James Taylor Avatar

    I’ve really enjoyed — I love figuring out New York locations and have spent some myself studying this movie and Ghostbusters, so I really appreciate someone else doing the legwork for me! It would be great to see some classic Woody Allen films given the same treatment.
    Going back to Taxi Driver, I just realized that you missed out the scene where Travis picks up a somewhat psychotic passenger (played by Scorsese). I used to think it was Gramercy Park. Now I think it might be Stuyvesant Park (perhaps the corner of Rutherford Place and East 17th?) but I could be way off. Any thoughts?