“New York, You’ve Changed” is a Scouting NY feature in which the New York depicted in classic movies is compared with the city of today, a full shot-by-shot dissection to see what once was and what has changed. Side note: I think this concept would make for an excellent coffee table/photo book, and if anyone might be interested (ahem TASCHEN ahem), please contact me!

Annie Hall may just be the best movie ever made in New York.

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Now before you let loose in the comments about why it’s NOT the best film ever made in New York, please note that I said may be! May be! But even on a list with The Godfather, The Godfather Part 2, Taxi Driver, Dog Day Afternoon, Do The Right Thing, even Allen’s own Manhattan, you have to admit that Annie Hall is a fierce contender.

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What’s really crazy is that Annie Hall is a film that almost wasn’t – at least, in the form we know it today. Originally titled Anhedonia (the scientific term for the inability to experience pleasure), Alvy’s relationship with Annie Hall was just a portion of the overall movie. Some of the stuff that was left out, including a trip to hell and a scene in which the Knicks play Allen and a team of philosophers, is the stuff of cinematic legend (read all about that here).

So how has the 1976 New York of Annie Hall changed in 36 years?

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The movie opens with Alvy reminiscing about growing up in a house located under the roller coaster at Coney Island. Go there today and you’ll find…a vacant lot:

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Contrary to popular belief, Alvy’s house was not under the Cyclone, but actually the now demolished Thunderbolt:

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A wooden rollercoaster designed by famed coaster architect John Miller, the Thunderbolt ran from 1925 until 1982. Alvy’s house was set in the Kensington Hotel, built in 1895. Owner George Moran decided to build the coaster right over the roof, and lived in the house until the 1980’s.

Picture from the Coney Island History Project – click for more!

Sadly, the entire property was left to rot for nearly two decades, and fell into significant disrepair:

Finally, on November 17, 2000, Giuliani sent in bulldozers without warning to raze the coaster and the historic Kensington, much to the dismay of locals and preservationists.

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It really blows my mind that, over 12 years later, it’s still just a weed-strewn dirt lot. This was really better? At the very least, could we please erect another iconic roller coaster in its place, perhaps one with a little house underneath the tracks?

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Moving on: in one of my favorite jokes of the movie (that I swear audiences never catch), Alvy recalls a pretty questionable childhood memory of running along the boardwalk with a bunch of 1950’s stereotypes. Pictured in the background is Steve’s Clam Bar:

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I’m pretty sure Steve’s was located on the boardwalk about one block east from the Thunderbolt, which you can see in the background. Today, not too many clams are being sold here:

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Alvy’s dad used to run the bumper cars…

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Could this possibly be the “Bump Your Ass Off” Eldorado? This is a tough one, as bumper car joints have come and gone over the past 30+ years. I know there are some Coney Island aficionados out there – does it ring any bells?

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The movie then skips ahead to the present, where we find Alvy walking down the street with his friend Rob. The scene was shot on East 66th between 2nd & 3rd Avenues…

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…and hardly anything has changed since then, right down to trees:

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This is one of my favorite shots in the film: lasting a whopping 1 minute 17 seconds, we can barely see the two as the shot opens. As they finally come up to the camera, we track with them until they finally disappear:

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Next, while waiting outside the Beekman movie theater for Annie, Alvy encounters an irritating fan who won’t leave him alone.

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Today, you won’t be seeing any movies here…

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The Beekman opened in 1952 as a one-screen theater and operated as an art house until its demolition in 2005. At the very least, its destruction was for a good cause: a breast cancer research facility was built in its place.

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Following its demise, The Clearview One & Two theater across the street was renamed the Beekman in honor of the defunct movie house:

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Reader Ruban I. reports that the interior was not the Beekman, but actually the lobby at the also defunct New Yorker theater.

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The film jumps ahead in their relationship, and we find Alvy and Annie driving out to Annie’s Hamptons beach house.

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I’m not 100% sure, but I would bet quite a lot of money this was shot on Dune Road in the Hamptons, which is just about the only road that makes sense.

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Running along the South Shore in exactly the same way as the road pictured in the film…

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…even the electrical poles match up:

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Except, for the life of me, I could not find Annie Hall’s house. Today, if you drive down Dune Road, this is the sort of beach house you’ll find…

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Enormous beach house after ridiculous beach house, stretching all along the coast:

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Annoyingly, every time I tried to get out of the car to take a picture, I was attacked by swarms of vicious green heads. Really sucks to spend all those millions of dollars for these things only to get eaten alive by flies every summer, huh?

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Every once in a while, I’d come across a place that looked right…

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…but then, checking the frame would reveal it to be off in some way. At the very least, the house is definitely located along the road they’re driving on – you can see it up ahead in the first frame.

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What should have been a dead giveaway is this dock, which seems to stretch out from the house in the second frame above of the couple driving. I checked the coastline via Google Maps – doesn’t seem to exist anymore.

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I really hope it wasn’t torn down and replaced by a McMansion. It’d be nice to know that someone might still be cooking lobsters there to this day:

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As they’re walking along the beach, Annie talks about a former boyfriend in Chippewa Falls, who we briefly see waiting for her in front of a movie theater. Anyone have any idea where this is? I’ve checked most of the Plaza theaters in the NYC area, and none of them match up. The Village Soda Shoppe bit on the left is clearly set-dressing, and I wouldn’t be surprised if even the Plaza sign was fake.

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The movie jumps through time yet again to the day when Alvy first met Annie, at the Wall Street Racquet Club, built on a pair of piers jutting out where Wall Street meets the East River:

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Try to play a set today, and you’ll sadly just find yourself underwater:

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The Wall Street Raquet Club, once located on Pier 13 & 14 near the South Street Seaport, was actually in existence up until 2002, when the city shut it down ostensibly due to the deterioration of the structures (some believe the eviction was because of a plan to bring a Guggenheim extension to the site, which obviously never materialized):

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Oddly, Pier 13 and 14 still show up on Google Maps, even though both are long gone:

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Alvy and Annie play a few rounds…

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…and then, Annie offers to give Alvy a ride home.

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The duo careen up South Street under the FDR Drive, the Brooklyn Bridge ramps visible in the background…

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…and today:

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As they continue up South Street, you see a whole bunch of crumbling buildings on the west side…

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…all of which are gone now, replaced by modern buildings:

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The reverse looking north…

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More or less unchanged today (though we have a few more trees):

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Finally, the two turn onto Annie’s street – East 68th between Madison & Park:

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One change: the building on the far right is suddenly red brick:

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The two have a brief exchange…

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…then head up to Annie’s apartment:

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So far, the geography in the movie makes sense: Alvy and Rob walk down East 66th Street because it’s a natural route to the Beekman, while Annie and Alvie drive up South Street because it’s how you’d leave the Wall Street Racquet Club.

So was East 68th chosen because that’s where Annie’s apartment actually was? It’s hard to tell – I can’t really make out any backyard balcony gardens on Google Maps satellite view, but I wouldn’t be surprised.

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Click here for the second part of Annie Hall filming locations!

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  1. Alan Avatar

    Another great post. Looking forward to part 2. I’d like to read in a future post about your process for finding all the locations from the old films. Do you really on your knowledge of the city, dialogue and other context clues in the films, and third-party research (e.g., books about the film)? It must take a lot of work to track all this stuff down. I’m glad you do it.

  2. Ruben Iglesias Avatar
    Ruben Iglesias

    Hi
    I spotted two errors concerning the movie theaters that Alvy frequents. The first concerns the lobby he is exiting as patrons are purchasing tickets and entering it to his left, that’s the Paris theater on West 58th street, just off of 5th Avenue, not the Beekman. Also, the theater lobby that both he and Annie are waiting in is not the Beekman’s, but the late, lamented New Yorker’s.

    Great blog, by the way.

    Regards, Ruben

    1. Scout Avatar

      Thanks for the info, fixed!

  3. r185 Avatar
    r185

    So what is the joke that audiences never catch?

    1. B-dot in the T-dot Avatar
      B-dot in the T-dot

      My guess: the joke is that, when Alvy says something like “I’ve always had an over-active imagination”, the blonde popsy in the red romper winks and mugs directly to camera — which means that you the audience-member would also have to have an over-active imagination to see a blonde in a movie winking at you.

      (A bit of a clunky explanation for a delightfully subtle gag — sorry!)

  4. Tom Rinaldi Avatar

    I lived around the corner from the Beekman when I first moved to NYC, it was a real neighborhood asset. Its neon marquee was spectacular: http://nyneon.org/Amusement-04.htm

  5. chris Avatar
    chris

    the scene outside the plaza theatre ,next to the soda shoppe, reminds me of the new IFC movie house (old waverly)on 6th ave. could this be right?

    1. Adam Avatar
      Adam

      I also was reminded of the IFC/former Waverly at 6th Ave & W. 3rd St.

    2. Kate Avatar
      Kate

      I was reminded of the Waverly as well, but from the photos I could find, the marquee has always had that sort of blunted triangular shape that it has now; it’s not straight across in the front. Was thinking (hoping?) it might be the old Metro theater on Broadway and 99th, but doesn’t look quite right either.

    3. Tom Judson Avatar
      Tom Judson

      I believe the Plaza Theater was on 58th St. bet. 5th/Madison. It had a beautiful wood-paneled lobby. One of the more comfortable old-style neighborhood movie houses.

  6. Mac Avatar
    Mac

    ….a great post about a great NYC centric movie….looking forward to pt.2 ….mac

  7. DOn Avatar

    Fun! I wonder if while you were scouting the Hamptons you happened to find the majestic home from Woody Allen’s often-overlooked “Interiors?”

    1. K Avatar
      K

      I thought that was in Deal NJ

  8. Michael Avatar

    Just wanted to say that I absolutely love this blog. Been reading for a long time and it always makes me miss Manhattan. Keep up the great work!

  9. Sean P. Fodera Avatar
    Sean P. Fodera

    Great post. Looking forward to the next installment.

    Speaking from a publishing perspective (I work for a major NYC book publisher), the idea of a book like this is a great one. However, the problem would be getting permission from the studios to use the number of stills you’d need for the Then/Now comparisons. Studios are loathe to give permission for too much material, and if you had in mind to do more than one film per book, the rights issues (and potential royalty sums) could make the project untenable for many mainstream publishers. Still, it is a great idea, and might be made to work.

    1. kateC Avatar
      kateC

      i think Fair Use is your pal, for that sort of book. I do clearances for a living, and I doubt that any studio would even try a cease and desist.

  10. K Avatar
    K

    I’m going to take a shot in the dark on this, but I would venture to guess Annie’s Hamptons house may have been on Peconic Bay or perhaps Long Island Sound. My reasoning is that “dock” you refer to looks more like a fishing pier and likewise does not appear to be designed to handle a pounding ocean. Also, there are still many houses that look like Annie’s around Greenport and East Marion.

    I was recently watching a different movie on cable. The shots looking east were Breezey Point and the shots looking west were Montauk (about a 100 miles apart). The film maker wanted us to believe it was Southampton.

    1. Peter Avatar

      I don’t believe there are piers of that sort extending into Long Island Sound in the East End. Much of the Sound shoreline has a steep drop-off to beach level, making pier-building impractical. Peconic Bay is more likely.

    2. Karl Avatar
      Karl

      The dock is in Glen Coves North Country Colony. It was torn down because of restore and insurance cost. It was the beach I grew up at. I remember them filming the movie there when I was a kid.

  11. Joe Avatar
    Joe

    jumping ahead, i’m pretty sure the “we use a large vibrating egg” scene was right around waverly place and gay street in the village….

  12. Liman Avatar
    Liman

    When we first saw the film in 1977, the bunch of us exclaimed “that’s Dune Road.” We agreed the house was one of a handful of small homes between Triton Lane and Dolphin Lane, on the ocean side. All of which have been replaced by the conspicuous palaces you cited. Of course, back then, we didn’t have the video avaiable to us to check right away. The dock was somewhere else. There surf and littoral drift of the sand make a dock impossible.

    If I recall correctly, in this film Woody also mentions “the crabs at Sam Wo’s” as one of his reasons for living. Sam Wo was at 39 Mott Street, right at the crook in the road. It was the greatest Cantonese place ever. Linoleum floor, flourescent light, tea in glasses, slide the pressed ducks aside to access the bathroom, open all night.

  13. Peter Avatar

    Dune Road is indeed the most likely location for the Hamptons scene. As I understand it, large houses used to be uncommon along the road because the risk of storm damage was too high. Enactment of the federal flood insurance program in the late 1960’s made it much easier to build in such risky locations. Although the program was nearly a decade old in 1977, many of the details were still being worked out and there hadn’t yet been a building boom in locations such as Dune Road.

    Whether the taxpayers should be subsidizing insurance on huge Dune Road houses, which will be _former_ houses if a hurricane or even a strong tropical storm makes a direct hit, well, that’s another issue for another time 🙂

  14. Harold Square Avatar
    Harold Square

    Such a wonderful public service for the Giuliani administration to get rid of that eyesore and public nuisance, the Thunderbolt roller coaster, in the middle of the night with no warning. It could have fallen on someone! That is, if they climbed over the fence and stood under it for a few decades. And the 1895 Kensington Hotel definitely did not meet the new Italian design standards for the boardwalk. Who cares if it was the oldest remaining building in Coney Island? I know I’ve really enjoyed looking at that vacant lot the last 12 summers.

  15. Don Avatar
    Don

    Great detective work!

    As a onetime Coney resident, I have a feeling that Steve’s Clam Bar might have been farther east, with the Cyclone in the background, but I could be wrong about that.

  16. Don Avatar
    Don

    I disagree about the Plaza location — there was a Plaza theater on West 58th, and in one photo I was able to find, the theater name is identical with the Annie Hall shot, although the marquee has changed:

    http://iradeutchman.com/film/movie-theaters-ive-known-and-loved/

  17. Gregg Avatar
    Gregg

    My family rented a house on Dune Road just west of Mecox Beach in Bridgehampton all through the 1970’s and we remember them filming the scenes for Annie Hall there. The house is long gone. Piers 13 and 14 hosted the Wall Street Racquet Club, owned by the Wind family of Long Island. The cost of replacing the structures was tremendous and the DEC has a strong environmental agenda to eliminate as many piers as possible, so they were demolished. Fortunately, nearby at Pier 15, is the spectacular new public park that was recently opened by the city, as well as the first phase of the East River Waterfront Esplanade. Some things do improve over time!

    1. Liman Avatar
      Liman

      Hey, Gregg. I defer to your knowledge if you were there when it was filmed. However, I can’t let it go… I was VERY familar with Dune Road from the Shinnecock Inlet to the Moriches Inlet (which has since become a caricature of trophy houses). I was also passably familiar with Mecox and environs. Dune Road in Southampton (which seemed to be an extension of Gin Lane) was, even then, a pretty grand affair. The house in the movie was not typical of Southampton.

  18. Ash Avatar

    I always thought that the Hampton’s house belonged to Alvy, not Annie. In the last part of the movie, Alvy is in the same kitchen trying to recreate the lobster scene with a new girlfriend. Could be wrong but that was always my interpretation…

    Love the post!

  19. Benjamin Avatar

    When the Beekman’s demolition was imminent in 2005, I went and photographed as much as I could without calling too much attention to mysel. It never occurred to me, until Scout mentioned it, that there wouldn’t be a ton of photos available online documenting the design. So I’ve mounted a post on my blog, The Architecture of Film (http://archoffilm.blogspot.com/) showing all I’ve got: http://archoffilm.blogspot.com/2012/07/the-beekman-of-annie-hall-1977.html

  20. Rodrigo Maroni Avatar
    Rodrigo Maroni

    Loved this post. Hard to believe that my wife and I were watching again Annie Hall Sunday night and – quite inevitably – comparing the locations with the current ones. Amazed that you were working on this post at the same time. By the way, did you already take a picture from the near-corner round table at Lincoln Center’s PJ Clarke’s for the ending sequence?